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after this incredible event.  It was also taped 
by CT-N, here's the link for the Video.  
 
According to the National Institute of Justice, in 2011, 688,384 men and
 women — approximately 1,885 individuals a day — were released from 
state or federal custody in the U.S. Returning to the community from 
jail or prison is a complex transition for most offenders, as well as 
for their families and communities. Upon reentering society, former 
offenders are likely to struggle with substance abuse, lack of adequate 
education and job skills, limited housing options, and mental health 
issues. 
 
FEATURED GUESTS
Rev. Jeff Grant, JD, M Div 
Jeff Grant is the Minister/Director of the Progressive Prison 
Project/Innocent Spouse and Children Project in Greenwich, providing 
religious and spiritual support to people affected by incarceration  - 
before, during and upon reentry from prison. "the first ministry in the 
US created to support people accused or convicted of white-collar and 
other nonviolent crimes and their families."  
Jeff has a JD from New York Law School and a Master of Divinity from 
Union Theological Seminary. He sits on a number of boards serving 
ex-offender communities, including 
Community Partners in Action in Greater Hartford
He has received the Elizabeth Bush Award for Volunteerism and the 
Bridgeport Reentry Collaborative Advocate of the Year and has been 
featured in national media from Forbesto New York Magazine 
LaResse Harvey, Director of Strategic Relations, A Better Way Foundation
LaResse Harvey came to A Better Way Foundation nearly a decade ago as a 
formerly incarcerated person. As ABWF’s Lead Community Organizer, she  
organized neighborhoods for public safety and staffed ABWF’s advocacy 
group Alliance Connecticut on pardons reform and against “3 Strikes” 
out.
She has overhauled ABWF public education and outreach strategies. and led statewide campaigns that 
- Removed the “have you been convicted of a felony?” question from local and state public job applications;
 
- Decriminalized small amounts of marijuana and brought a Palliative Marijuana program to Connecticut;
 
- Established Good Samaritan 911 protections and expanded access to Narcan for people who could prevent an overdose;
 
- Brought back Earned Early Release Credits for non-violent prisoners;
 
- Improved protocol for reported sexual assault in prison facilities.
 
 
OPENING REMARKS
Rev. Jeff Grant
Jeff served 14 months in federal prison in Pennsylvania for white collar
 crime. He is friends with LaResse and although they come from different
 backgrounds, they come together on their stories of reentry. They are 
both advocates and involved with reentry programs. They have been 
tweeting and discussing tonight’s program with Michelle Alexander, Piper
 Kerman, Maureen Price-Boreland, and other previous Stowe Center 
speakers.
Jeff and LaResse were both invited to a meeting at a coffee shop in New 
Haven, and at the end of the meeting Jeff had to take a train from New 
Haven to Greenwich, and LaResse offered to take him to the station. They
 made a stop for hot chocolate and when it was served, Jeff put a lid 
and sleeve on her cup, and LaResse cried, commenting that she could not 
remember the last time someone did an act of kindness for her. When you 
go to prison, are forced into situations like using the bathroom in 
front of others, etc. – but when you get home, you realize you have been
 institutionalized; how you relate to others has changed. Found it hard 
to be around family and others, and relate to things, after prison. He 
had to go to the Mobil station to use the bathroom for the institutional
 feeling.
The Justice Imperative: How Hyper-Incarceration Has Hijacked the American Dream is a book being released this fall, and was assembled by an editorial committee of criminal justice leaders in Connecticut. 
Everyone goes through a process of re-assimilation and reentry – it 
moved slowly, like a merry-go-round, where the world kept going. He had a
 law degree and other resources, but many do not have resources after 
prison and are dumped on the street. It becomes hard to believe that you
 lived one life, and are now trying to find acceptance in a new way of 
life. Many of the people he works with cannot find jobs, houses, 
services, or even sobriety, so they return to their coping mechanism 
prior to prison (often drugs) and recidivate. He himself was full of 
shame and remorse and disbelief in what his life had become, and for 
almost six months could not look people in the face. He and LaResse try 
to hold themselves up as examples as of what is possible in reentering 
society. He attends Alcoholics Anonymous as someone who is 12 years 
sober, and can sit at a meeting next to someone who has the same 
experience, support, and motivation, but he is sober and the one next to
 him has recidivated and is back in prison. For him, there is no clear 
explanation except for his belief in prayer and God.
Now that there is a focus on the prison system with The New Jim Crow, Orange is the New Black, and US Attorney General Eric Holder’s policies, it is time to consider the system and reentry.
LaResse Harvey
Just because someone has reentered into society and has a job doesn’t 
mean they have successfully reentered; she is still trying to recuperate
 from her incarceration and sentence. Most people only see her as a 
masculine, powerful advocate, not as a woman who is very feminine, 
emotional, and loving. Was very wounded – spiritually and emotionally – 
after being abused by men and women in prison. When Jeff put the lid and
 sleeve on her hot chocolate, she realized that others were there for 
her – she started to see the humanism of reentry, not just the policy 
and advocacy. Reentry is about real people, everyday, who are leaving 
the prison system.
It was hard to return to an active lifestyle after prison. After 
returning home to New Britain, her family wanted her to rest and 
readjust, but she had the impulse to be active and productive (clean, 
straighten up the house). When she was in prison, she was involved with 
her daughter’s Girl Scout Troop, the organization Phenomenal Women, 
which established her relationship with her children. She has been out 
of prison for almost 15 years, however because her son’s husband did not
 support her, she has not talked to her son in 2 years (he is now 20); 
she talks to her daughter (now 26) on a regular basis.
She feels she is a rebel by nature and always for the underdog. Mass 
incarceration and hyper-incarceration have created incarcerated 
neighborhoods in urban areas, and she now works to help and raise 
awareness about incarcerated neighborhoods. She has found that in 
certain neighborhoods like the north end of Hartford, all adults and 
teenagers have prison records, and the kids have criminal records 
through the school system. Going to prison is traumatic, as is coming 
home from prison – people always call out your past crimes and your 
record. She has PTSD and calls herself and other formerly incarcerated 
people “veterans” – prison is war, she herself was raped by another 
woman and abused while in prison.  She tells her story because she 
believes she is in her position to advocate for those who cannot talk. 
When she talks she gives substance and shares real stories. 
Why do we have tanks in communities like New Britain with only 73,000 
people? Some feel it is ok but it is not – New Britain is an 
incarcerated community. We need to stop being ashamed. The Public 
Wellness Campaign helps communities heal from the trauma of 
hyper-incarceration. Hiring people with criminal records helps increase 
tax base and lower taxes. She started as a client of Community Partners 
in Action and returned to serve on their board, along with Rev. Jeff 
Grant.
GROUP DISCUSSION
Audience question: Can you explain the pardon process?
- LaResse: In Connecticut, you can get a pardon while you are 
still incarcerated, as well as after you’ve been home. A pardon erases 
your criminal record, but does not erase DMV record unless you request 
it separately.
 
- Jeff: CT is one of the only states with a separate pardons 
board not overseen by the Governor. There are a few pardons 
organizations in the state.
 
 
Audience comment: As a representative from 
Reentry Survivors,
 believes that one of the problems is that people are “ex- this and ex- 
that” – his organization tries to call those who are released “reentry 
survivors.” They are now collecting stories of those who have reentered 
and survived, to be published on websites and blogs.  
 
Audience comment: Purpose of The Justice Imperative book 
is to educate citizens in non-technical and non-legal language about how
 serious and devastating the problem of over-incarceration is in our 
society. He hopes that people will be sufficiently moved that they will 
develop a constituency that will take positions on legislation (ie. To 
change public policy in Connecticut), organize themselves, learn about 
the legislative process, show up and testify at hearings, buttonholing 
legislators. It is a public education effort designed at action. Public 
policy will not change on its own and requires involvement and support 
from citizens. There is bi-partisan support of prison system reform 
because of the cost to support the system. In other states, the efforts 
to reduce the incarcerated population have taken root and found success.
 The goal of the book is to reduce the prison population in Connecticut 
by 50%. The rate of incarceration is higher in the United States than 
any other country, including dictatorships.
- LaResse: Everyone should join Civic Trust Public Lobbying
 for civic engagement training. Program started in 2010 because we need 
to change the tendency of looking at the charges on formerly 
incarcerated peoples’ records; they do not tell the whole story, 
especially that they may have made a mistake when young and very well 
may have grown and matured. Recovery is a process – you do not stop 
recovery and are always fighting not to relapse.
 
 
Audience question: In the pardon process, if you committed a 
crime and are pardoned, do you still have to “check that box”? What do 
you have to do to get pardoned?
- LaResse: The process is a long application that requires your
 name, education and employment background, three references (including 
one family member), $65 for fingerprinting, listing all of your crimes 
and the story/situation behind the crime, and an explanation of why you 
are a good candidate for a pardon (if you are illiterate, you do not 
have a good chance for a pardon). You then wait for the Board of Pardons and Paroles
 (a board appointed by the Governor) to respond, which can either say 
you have been denied, you have been accepted (an administrative pardon),
 or that you have to attend a Board of Pardons and Paroles hearing 
(questioning by three from the Board ). Many need to find lawyers, 
obtain and make copies of all documentation, and certificates, and 
provide copies for the Board. If you are pardoned, your record is 
cleared from all databases and records – however that does not clear you
 from discrimination by others and living with having been incarcerated.
 
- Jeff: A pardon is an expungement  from all State and Federal 
crimes. Most go through pardons for economic reasons. Even if you are 
pardoned, you carry the “emotional baggage” and shame of at one point 
not having been able to be near children, be a coach for your kids’ 
teams, etc. You still have to deal with the internalization of having 
committed the crime. Connecticut has the opportunity to be a leader in 
pardons and expungement. We have a system that is unique, but we are not
 giving it its due.
 
- LaResse: To take action, you can advocate that those who have
 misdemeanors for marijuana possession should be pardoned; reduce 
drug-free zones.
 
- Audience comment: As Executive Director of Community Partners
 in Action, recognizes that we need to underscore that this system is 
not designed to avoid the victims of the situation. The concern, 
however, is that our system is structured in such a way that we continue
 to punish someone for a behavior, prevents them from “pulling 
themselves up by the boot straps,” and do not help them become 
contributing citizens. If we do not allow them to reenter society and 
contribute in a meaningful way, they cannot successfully reenter and 
become productive citizens. In Hartford, because of the number of 
schools and “drug-free zones,” everywhere that you sell drugs you are 
committing a felony. Selling drugs in a drug-free zone adds to the 
period of incarceration. We are stuck in a place of punishing them, not 
focusing on logic and helping them reenter.
 
 
Audience question: Was there a probation or parole board to help 
you reenter? How do those who do not have support find jobs, new lives, 
etc? Are there reentry centers?
- LaResse: When she was released she had a parole officer 
helping her, but others are left at the train station to figure out how 
to survive; they are left homeless. There should be reentry centers in 
major cities.
 
- Jeff: In the federal system, had 3 years of federal probation
 and his officer helped him transition. In Connecticut, parole and 
probation are separate and different budgets: parole is paid for by the Department of Corrections, and a returning offender usually goes on to probation which is paid for the judicial branch.
 Communication between parole and services before prison, and probation,
 need to be improved because otherwise the services do not help the 
offender.
 
 
Audience comment: Spent almost 25 years behind bars. Is the 
Executive Director of Phoenix Association, comprised exclusively of 
ex-offenders who have successfully reentered. They work to facilitate 
reentry. Several years ago, there were many who could not get to the 
second round of parole even if the infraction was years prior, they had 
participated in programs, etc. The process may have changed, but civic 
engagement is important in giving ex-offenders a chance to complete 
their sentences and grant pardons to those who are deserving; this will 
not happen unless there is a large movement. We need everyone to try and
 effect paradigm shift.
Audience comment: Not only does the US incarcerate a large 
percentage of its people, we also incarcerate them in some of the worst 
conditions, worse than western Europe and Canada. In Canada, prisons 
have full time Chaplains rather than those who come in periodically; 
they are part of the prison administration. The system is founded on the
 basis of restorative justice: the purpose of incarceration is to 
reintegrate people backi into society as fast as possible. The Chaplain 
system, at the expense of the prison system, is a community chaplaincy 
and serves as a reentry system that helps offenders reestablish 
themselves. Community Partners in Action is a great organization doing 
outstanding work, but there are many services that they cannot offer 
that community chaplaincy programs could. The 
John Howard Society
 has a 200-year history of supporting the humanization of the justice 
system and reentry. The Society helps recovering offenders by sending 
them back into the prisons to share their stories with imprisoned 
people.  
 
- LaResse: A Better Way Foundation is working to organize 
people around issues and implement harm-reduction models that have 
proven to work effectively in urban, rural, and suburban communities so 
that it does not look as threatening to rural and suburban communities.
 
 
Audience comment: Earlier this month was watching a press conference at the While House sharing results from various 
Department of Labor
 programs working to get ex-offenders employed. They had small and 
national eployers talking about hiring former offenders, and one said 
that while many employers will given offenders a chanc, they are worried
 about the safety risk. How do we get employers to think more openly?
 
Audience comment: Her son is in jail and she is very frustrated 
with the system. She is a social worker and has been advocating for 
clients her entire lfie, but cannot advocate for her son. He is about to
 reenter society but the system is such a mess that she has been 
powerless in helping. He was told that he was approved for Transitional 
Supervision and entry to a halfway house, but after spending days and 
days searching for programs, she found that many do not contact you or 
respond. It shouldn’t be her responsibility to make the arrangements, it
 should be the responsibility of the prison, but she has no way of 
communicating with the system or services. She has been cut off from her
 son, could not add money to his account because his name was 
misspelled, and does not know what to do.
- Jeff: The best way to work with the system is contact the warden.
 
- LaResse: Communication needs to be improved. Some families 
contact A Better Way saying that their mail is not being received by 
their famiy who is incarcerated; that is not right. Family support needs
 to be encouraged and supported through the system. Reentry councilors 
are responsible for taking care of those returning to society.
 
Audience comment: The issue is large and complicated, but one 
issue we have not talked about is that the engine that drives huge 
numbers of people incarcerated in Connecticut and many states is urban 
poverty. Connecticut is the richest state, but we have three or four of 
the poorest cities in the country. If we do not address the issue in a 
new, goal-directed way, we cannot solve the 15% poverty rate in the 
United States; that statistic is far lower in other countries.
 
Audience comment: is an advocate for Progressive Prison 
Project/Innocent Spouse and Children Project . For her, like with 
Harriet Beecher Stowe, it is really a human issue – just like Jeff and 
LaResse’s friendship, and what she felt when her husband Jeff was in 
prison. When Jeff was in prison, she and her daughter were in poverty 
and were grief stricken. Those who look at her and think she has never 
faced poverty are wrong. When she listens to LaResse she cannot express 
the pain she feels inside. No girl or woman should have to experience 
what she did, being raped by another inmate. “We are all bound by our 
brokenness, and the sooner we gather together and focus on these 
issues,” the sooner we can make change – it is about souls, and grace, 
and mercy, and people, and taking people by the hands. This is what we 
need to bring our children up with. She wants everyone to leave the 
Salon and reach out to someone – "we are bound."
Audience comment: As an ex-offender, is humbled that so many 
people came to share in the conversation. Was incarcerated fr 25 years 
and served 17.5 years. His heart goes out to the victims of his crime 
and does not forget about them. When factories left Connecticut and left
 unemployment, crime and poverty increased. Resources are not funneled 
into the cities and where they monney is needed. He is a third 
generation incarceration and works to help with successful reentry. Lack
 of resources, lack of quality education in the community, and laws are 
problems – but the underlying issue is racism. We see laws like 
cost of incarceration,
 which can continue to take money from you after reentry for the cost 
incurred by the government during your incarceration for up to 20 years 
after release. This keeps certain groups of people in a perpetual state 
of poverty and disenfranchisement. Much of this happened under the 
Rowland administration, and these issues still need to be addressed. 
This conversation reminds him of when William Lloyd garrison tried to 
get people to understand the importance of abolition and horrors of 
slavery, but he did not find success until he brought on Frederick 
Douglass. “We are here tonight with the Frederick Douglass’.”
 
- LaResse: Cost of incarceration should be unconstitutional. We
 also need to eradicate holding cells/rooms in schools which are 
incarcerating students.
 
 
Jeff: There is something psychological about seeing someone 
commit a crime that looks like you – a white person has a hard time 
seeing someone who looks like them commit a crime and admit that crime 
happens in their communities and effects everyone.
INSPIRATION TO ACTION
- Read The Justice Imperative: How Hyper-Incarceration Has Hijacked the American Dream (fall 2014).
 
- Hire someone with a criminal record.
 
- Revise the pardon process which is not equal in sex, race, ethnicity, or crime.
 
-  Encourage people to submit their stories as
“re-entry survivors” to help change public policy (submit to reentrysurvivors@gmail.com)
 
- Participate in public hearings, lend your voice
to change public policy.
 
- Join Civic Trust Public Lobbying. 
 
- Learn about decriminalization of marijuana and expungement of misdemeanors.
 
-  Establish reentry centers in major cities and
towns.
 
- Connect parole and probation and improve communication between departments.
 
- Take action and organize grassroots groups in your
community to bring awareness and create change on issues:
 
- Call legislators
 
- Write letters
 
- Attend hearings
 
- Learn more about the Phoenix Association
 
- Learn more about the John Howard Society as a model community chaplaincy program
(Canada, England, Norway, Denmark).
 
- Explore A Better Way Foundation (ABWF) resources. 
 
- Allow prisoners to vote.
 
- Improve family reunification process – families
need to speak up and build support.
 
- We’re all bound by our brokenness – this is a
human issue – do something!
 
- Re-examine the laws around cost of incarceration.
 
- Address the underlying issue of racism.
 
- Eradicate holding cells in schools.
 
 
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